I recently got a puppy from someone and was curious out its color. The mother was a German Shepperd and the father was a rottweiler. We saw both dogs, and they were definitely a German Shepperd and rottweiler. Most of the puppies had the colors of the German Shepperd, but 2 of them were white, mine is white. I was wondering how the dog can be all white, considering the parents.
Yes it is possible. There are white German Shepherds. Some where down the line there might have been a few in their family. Also, a litter of pups can have more than one father.
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That’s strange.
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Yes it is possible. There are white German Shepherds. Some where down the line there might have been a few in their family. Also, a litter of pups can have more than one father.
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GSDs (German shepherds) carry the gene for white. Rotties do not. White is recessive in GSDs, and since rotties do not carry white, your puppy’s dad is probably some mutt of the street that carries white, and the mom (GSD) probably carries white.
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hmm that is strange! well if you saw all the other puppies and your white one is the same shape and looks like them with it’s face, maybe that just happened for some strange reason… if they look different facially and with their body then maybe they are not from the same litter
can you get albino dogs? maybe they are albino?
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i have worked in kennels and we had a white german shepard that would come in they are rare but beautiful here is a link to see where i am coming from
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http://www.whitegermanshepherd.org/
yes the german shepard could have had the white gean. there are white german shepards. you can google them to see what they look like
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Since Rottweilers do not carry a gene for white coloring….no.
Doesn’t matter if the GSD female is carrying white (which can obviously occur, since the color does appear in the breed)…it takes two to tango. If the male doesn’t carry it, it won’t be expressed.
It would appear that the Rottweiler was not the only sire in this litter of puppies.
ADD: Les – If the gene for white coloring ever existed in Rotties, it was recessive and bred out long before now. The quick perusal of histories I did told me that, in the beginning, there were greys and yellows in the breed. No whites. I would be less surprised to see a blue (dilute black) or grey Rott than a white Rott.
Give it time? Seems to me the only way that prophecy would come to pass is if a breed carrying white were introduced. The white "Z" factor in Dobes gets a lot of study and interest because of its myriad associated health problems. I have no doubt that, were white to occur in the Rottie, it would get the same interest, and we would have heard about it by now.
Honestly, if a white "throwback" in the Rottie were going to show up, I’d need to see it coming from a purebred litter created by someone who knew their pedigrees…not from a backyard cross-bred litter.
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No.
As already answered, German ShepHERDs can have a white coat, but it is a recessive trait, meaning both parents would have to contribute the recessive gene in order for it to appear. If one parent did not, the dog would not have a white coat.
Since Rotties do not carry the gene, it is not possible for a Rottie/GSD mix to have a white coat.
As for albinos, yes, you can have albino dogs but a white dog is not necessarily an albino.
"A pure white animal, with pale pink skin and pink eyes, is an albino (technically known as tyrosinaseG-negative). This is a recessive gene (genetic notation is "c"), so a dog would need two copies for it to show. These animals have no color whatsoever, not even skin spots."
Highly unlikely your pup is albino.
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http://www.deafdogs.org/faq/#albino
its probably albino
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some german shepherds have white in their bloodline…so yes they can have white pups…
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[Jenny]:
As I’ve asked before: Stick to a topic you know something about. You don’t even know my breed’s NAME! And white GSDs are 5±% of the GSDs registered by the AKC – hardly rare!
[Kaper]:
You write often. So it’s time you learned that there is no gene for white. For self-white to be displayed, TWO pairs of recessives are required, one pair blocking the eumelanin (dark pigment), one pair blocking the phaeomelanin (tan pigment). My group and http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/GSD_Genetics have experts who can educate you on genetics. Meantime: Not from Iljin (1932) or Little onwards has there been a "c" allele postulated in dogs. Albinos are c^a c^a (the ^ is because YA is too primitive to let me use superscripts) – see http://homepage.usask.ca/~schmutz/alleles.html for the current situation.
[Loki Wolfchild]:
How sure are you that there are no white Rotties? Many breeds have individuals with rogue alleles that aren’t supposed to be in that breed’s gene-pool. But once The KC(UK) or the AKC or the CKC register them their rogue alleles BECOME part of that breed’s gene pool. I’ve not yet heard of a white Rottie, but that breed’s not my interest. Nor are Dobes, but I’ve heard of whites there. Give it time!
[shall328]:
As a newbie you are allowed to – until now – not know the real names of breeds. But people who claim to be advising you yet can neither punctuate nor spell the breeds they claim to know about are irresponsible – obviously they don’t even know the FUNCTION of the breeds they claim expertise on.
My breed was developed to HERD sheep in a special way – not "perd" them, not "ard" or "hard" or "pard" them. So its real name (Deutsche Schäferhund) is, in English, German Shepherd Dog.
I doubt that you have the expertise to differentiate between a REAL GSD and a cross-bred, between a REAL Rottie and a cross-bred. It is very likely that the so-called Rottie is actually a cross-bred, or is NOT the sire of the white pups.
Both pairs of alleles for producing self-white are recessives, so can be carried by normal-coloured parents. Breeders of self-whites tend to collect other alleles to help the white, and so carriers tend to have silvery white where they should have rich tan, and many have a very reduced saddle-area by the time they are 3 years old. But carriers-for-white don’t HAVE to show those effects.
But although more than 5% of AKC-regd "GSD"s are whites or carriers for white, the colour is so untypical of Rotties that it would be an IMMENSE coincidence for him to be a carrier – if he is a genuine Rottie. Whereas if he is a cross-bred, who knows WHAT he carries?
In your situation you should demand a DNA paternity test. But as the litter is cross-bred anyway, don’t expect to get far with that demand. There are MANY drawbacks to buying a cross-bred BYB or an unregistered BYB, and inability to force DNA paternity tests is one of them.
• Add http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_GSD_Source to your browser’s Bookmarks or Favorites so that you can easily look up such as feeding, vaccinations, clubs, GSD weights, teething, neutering, disorders.
It’s DNA section lists labs that will work out main ancestry, but the accuracy is not guaranteed. And what will you do if it finds no trace of Rottweiler?
To ask your questions, join some of the YahooGroups dedicated to various aspects of living with GSDs or Rotties. Each group’s Home page tells you which aspects they like to discuss, and how active they are. Unlike YA, they are set up so that you can have an ongoing discussion with follow-up questions for clarification. Most allow you to include photos to show what you mean.
Les P, owner of GSD_Friendly: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/GSD_Friendly
"In GSDs" as of 1967
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